Showing posts with label PCUSA. Show all posts
Showing posts with label PCUSA. Show all posts

Wednesday, July 11, 2012

PCUSA says spanking is wrong

The 220th General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church (USA) narrowly passed a resolution Thursday against using corporal punishment on children, the Christian Post reports. The resolution, which passed 334 to 306 with nine voters abstaining, also states that the PCUSA will now encourage "all states to enact licensing laws prohibiting corporal punishment in schools and day and residential childcare facilities." Many Christians believe corporal punishment is a biblical practice -- Proverbs 13:24 says, "Whoever spares the rod hates their children, but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them" -- while others believe children can be effectively disciplined in a non-physical way, and the resolution was controversial among General Assembly members. "Most people know the difference between discipline and abuse," the Rev. James Emig of the Denver Presbytery said. "I would like us to trust parents that most of them can responsibly [use] corporal punishment." Commissioner Susan Maara of the New Hope Presbytery argued: "If we can't stand against hitting and abusing children, what can we stand for? Let us love and not hit them."
Well, once again, they have shown that they don't care what Scripture says.

They are being led by the spirit of the age. 

Tuesday, October 18, 2011

PCUSA on the wrong side of God's history

Those who support gay marriage say that those of us who oppose it, are on the wrong side of history. When I am told that, I always ask, what side of history? Well, there's a history ran by the prince of this world, aka The Devil, and the history set by the Lord God. One allows humans, or gives the impression that humans can set out their own future, be that of destruction, or of the supposed "freedom" they have obtained by the development of culture or technology.

One example of this is how the PCUSA has turned from biblical teaching about sexuality, to a conforming stand with the culture that surrounds it.


MILWAUKEE — A Wisconsin man who left his Presbyterian ministry in California more than 20 years ago after telling his congregation that he is gay was welcomed back into the church leadership on Saturday as its first openly gay ordained minister.
In a quavering voice ripe with emotion, 56-year-old Scott Anderson told the hundreds of friends and backers who packed Covenant Presbyterian Church in Madison for his ordination ceremony that he never thought the day would come.

At least I can see that he was truthful at the beginning, resigning after he came out of the closet.

But what is worst for me, is to see how those who claim to be christians, can be so energetic at celebrating sin, yet, so "modest" in their worship to God.

When he was presented to the crowd, audience members gave him a thunderous standing ovation and began roaring with cheers.“That was very atypical of Presbyterians,” Doug Poland, an elder at Covenant Presbyterian Church, told the Wisconsin State Journal. “Usually our hands are in our laps.”


Unbelievable. These people not only give sin an standing ovation, but roar and cheer for what God clearly stands against. These people are not Christians, but pagans who call themselves christians.

But to really show how culture changes "christian"people, and commit to culture rather than to Scripture,  the piece gives us an example of someone who was biblical, but was turned due to some of his friends being gay.

Anderson chose the Rev. Mark Achtemeier of Dubuque, Iowa, to deliver the sermon Saturday. Achtemeier used to be one of the most vocal opponents of gay ordination, but he announced a complete turnaround after friendships with gay Christians prompted him to re-evaluate scriptural teachings about homosexuality.

Let me ask this man, if he remembers what Deuteronomy says about being enticed by others to do what God has not commanded:

Deuteronomy 13:6-9
New International Version (NIV)
 6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people.


Of course, we don't kill people under the New Covenant, but the principle remains, one must not be swayed by anyone to go against the revelation of the Lord.

So, keep changing your mind just to supposedly affirm others. This is not showing God's love, rather, showing contempt for people's eternal destiny.

PCUSA may be right on the side of human history, but not in God's history.

Luis A. Jovel